Bill Gross | Ian Andrew Bell https://ianbell.com Ian Bell's opinions are his own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Ian Bell Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:36:31 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 https://i0.wp.com/ianbell.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/cropped-electron-man.png?fit=32%2C32&ssl=1 Bill Gross | Ian Andrew Bell https://ianbell.com 32 32 28174588 Yahoo Buys Overture… https://ianbell.com/2003/07/14/yahoo-buys-overture/ Tue, 15 Jul 2003 03:36:31 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2003/07/14/yahoo-buys-overture/ http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cidR8&ncidR8&e=1&u=/ap/ 20030714/ap_on_hi_te/yahoo_overture 2 hours, 37 minutes ago

Add Technology – AP to My Yahoo!

By MICHAEL LIEDTKE, AP Business Writer

SAN FRANCISCO – Yahoo! Inc (NasdaqNM: YHOO -news ). on Monday snapped up Overture Services Inc. (NasdaqNM: OVER -news ), the pioneer of pay-for-placement online search results, in a $1.6 billion deal that fortifies the Internet powerhouse for a looming showdown with Google and Microsoft.

The cash-and-stock acquisition valued Overture at $24.82 per share — a 15 percent premium over the stock’s closing price last week. The price consists of $312 million in cash and 0.6108 Yahoo shares for each of Overture’s 65.7 million outstanding shares.

The deal’s value will fluctuate with Yahoo’s stock until its expected closing date in the fourth quarter.

Overture’s shares rose $2.54 to close at $24.05 Monday on the Nasdaq Stock Market, where Yahoo’s shares gained 1 cent to close at $32.20.

The acquisition continues a recent flurry of dealmaking in the lucrative business of online searching, a crucial axis on which much of the Internet’s utility depends.

By buying Pasadena, Calif.-based Overture, Yahoo gains control of one of its most important business partners and strikes a blow against Google and Microsoft.

A fierce rival of Google, which offers ad-based results distinct from its popularity-based search rankings, Overture now threatens to become more formidable by tapping into Yahoo’s greater resources, which included $1.1 billion in cash as of June 30.

Privately held Google, which provides some search results to Yahoo, declined to comment on Monday’s deal. Microsoft, whose MSN service, like Yahoo, has been collecting steady profits from Overture, was circumspect.

Lisa Gurry, MSN’s group product manager, said the software giant will make its next move after examining how Yahoo’s deal might affect its relationship with Overture.

Although Yahoo executives said they hope to maintain Overture’s existing alliances with partners such as MSN, it seems improbable that the rivals will want to subsidize each other, said Danny Sullivan, editor of the industry newsletter Search Engine Watch.

“This hurts MSN because Overture had been one of its best buddies,” Sullivan said.

MSN has been pouring more resources into online searching in an effort to become less reliant on services provided by outsiders. Besides relying on Overture for some of its search results, MSN also draws upon Inktomi, a search engine service that Yahoo acquired earlier this year for $279.5 million.

During the past 18 months, Overture has become increasingly valuable to Yahoo, prompting predictions that the two companies eventually would unite.

Overture has played a pivotal role in Yahoo’s recent financial revival, accounting for roughly 20 percent of Yahoo’s revenue of $604 million during the first half of this year.

Conceived by dot-com entrepreneur Bill Gross in 1997, Overture developed a search engine that sorts its results based on how much advertisers are willing to pay to be ranked under specific words.

Overture’s commercial database feeds search engines at popular Web sites such as Yahoo and MSN, which display the advertising links along with results generated by objective, algorithmic formulas.

Ridiculed just a few years ago, the so-called “pay-for-performance” concept has turned into an online gold mine. Pay-for-performance search is expected to generate $2 billion in revenue this year and U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray expects the lucrative niche will reach $5 billion in 2006.

Overture has cashed in on pay-for-perfmorance’s popularity, attracting 88,000 advertisers while generating earnings of $114 million since it first became profitable in the summer of 2001.

But the company’s success attracted more competition, most notably from Mountain View, Calif.-based Google, which has lured away pivotal partners such as AOL and EarthLink and spurred pricing concessions that have lowered Overture’s profit margins.

Although it followed in Overture’s footsteps, Google now has a slight edge over its rival in the United States. Domestically, Google’s network generated about 54 percent of all paid search results compared to 45 percent for Overture, according to market research compiled by comScore qSearch.

The competitive pressures prompted Overture’s management to lower its profit projections earlier this year and contributed to a downturn in the company’s stock, opening the door for Yahoo’s offer.

The deal supplements Yahoo’s recent acquisition of Inktomi with two other search engine services, AltaVista and Alltheweb.com, that Overture bought earlier this year for a total of $207 million.

Putting all those search engine tools under one roof is likely to create overlap, Sullivan said.

Yahoo executives believe all the services will help further its quest to overtake Google as the Web’s most popular search engine.

“We now own all the crucial elements of an end-to-end search offering,” Yahoo CEO Terry Semel said during an analyst call Monday.

Google continues to provide some of Yahoo’s search results. Semel declined to comment how the Overture acquisition will affect Yahoo’s relationship with Google. “I didn’t lay awake last night wondering about that,” Semel said in an interview Monday.

As a counter-punch to Yahoo’s moves, Microsoft seems more likely to acquire a search engine company, Sullivan said.

Potential candidates include Ask Jeeves Inc., FindWhat.com Inc. and, perhaps even Google.

MSN’s Gurry declined to comment on the company’s possible interest in Google.

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Robots For Everyone… https://ianbell.com/2002/05/27/robots-for-everyone/ Tue, 28 May 2002 04:06:39 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2002/05/27/robots-for-everyone/ Thanks to Idealab!, you too can pay $599 to have a robot spill your soda on the floor for you. What a time saver!

-Ian.

—- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020524/wr_nm/tech_robot_ dc_2

New Robot Sings Baby Lullabies, Delivers Drinks Fri May 24, 4:36 PM ET

By Ben Berkowitz

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – Imagine having your laptop fetch a beer from the refrigerator and then roll over to the baby’s room to sing a lullaby while e-mailing snapshots to grandma a thousand miles away.

Evolution Robotics, a start-up backed by Pasadena, California-based technology incubator Idealab, unveiled this week what it calls a “personal robot system” — essentially a robotic framework centered on a laptop computer.

The company’s ER1, which is able to perform the kinds of automated functions once considered science-fiction fantasy, retails for $499 in a do-it-yourself assembly kit or for $599 in a pre-built format.

Users can plug any laptop into the robot, though the current configuration does not power the computer from the robot’s battery. Planned future functions will allow for automatic recharging from standard electrical outlets, the company said.

“It’s sort of a young toddler of a robot,” Mike Dooley, a product manager for Evolution Robotics, told Reuters.

Evolution chose a unique place to unveil the device — the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the video game industry’s annual trade show concluding on Friday in Los Angeles.

The consumer model of the robot uses a basic visual training system. It has a Web camera, and using the included software, the owner can show the robot an item (examples used included a CD and a book) and then cue the robot to take action once it sees that item, in what the company described as an “if-then” arrangement.

Tucked away in a back corner of the main Convention Center hall, Evolution executives ran a demonstration in a mock livingroom where the ER1 was shown a Coke can, causing it to drive to a small refrigerator, identify the right can from a group of three lined up in front of the fridge, pick it up and deliver it to a recliner on the other side of the mock room.

The system was not without its bugs. The retriever arm dropped the soda can on the floor halfway to its destination. Dooley said the arm is still a prototype and will not be available until later this year.

He also conceded that, for the time being, the ER1 remains hobbyist’s device, made available to the public more as a proof-of-concept than as a candidate for hot toy of the year.

“This is really an early-adopter market,” he said.

The company plans to make money from selling the consumer kits, from selling advanced developer kits for potential manufacturers at prices up to $10,000 or more and from licensing its programming software to other robot manufacturers.

Besides Pasadena, California-based Idealab, whose chairman, Bill Gross, is also Evolution’s chairman, the company has an impressive list of backers, including its lead investor, former Compaq (news – web sites) Computer chairman Ben Rosen.

The company also has scientific advisers from such institutions as the California Institute of Technology and the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology.

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IdeaLab Will Have Its Day In Court.. https://ianbell.com/2002/04/30/idealab-will-have-its-day-in-court/ Wed, 01 May 2002 02:37:51 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2002/04/30/idealab-will-have-its-day-in-court/ Idealab needs to hire Johnny Cochrane for their civil defense:

“If the startup fails, Bill Gross must prevail!” “If the stock don’t split, you must acquit!”

Er… That’s bad stuff, right there. Late in the day.

YES…

I remember I owe you two steak dinners @ Morton’s in San Francisco, Mike.

-Ian.

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FW: Good Article….Post Bubble Silicon Valley Realities https://ianbell.com/2002/03/20/fw-good-articlepost-bubble-silicon-valley-realities/ Thu, 21 Mar 2002 03:57:38 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2002/03/20/fw-good-articlepost-bubble-silicon-valley-realities/ —— Forwarded Message From: Wilson Zehr Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:43:40 -0800 To: ‘Ian Andrew Bell’ Subject: FW: Good Article….Post Bubble Silicon Valley Realities

Silicon Valley Reboots

The dot-com bust was bad for Wall Street, but it was the best thing to happen to this high-tech crucible

By Steven Levy NEWSWEEK

March 25 issue – After the dot-com bubble was reduced to soap scum, cynics took to calling its epicenter “Death Valley.” Venture capitalists switched from free-spending Medicis to Scrooge McDucks (2000: $21 billion invested. 2001: $6 billion). Acres of office space, once harder to find than elbow room on a microchip, are going begging, and unemployment has reached Dust Bowl proportions. No. 3 in the Bay Area best-seller list? A book called “Dot.Con.”

BUT BEFORE YOU bust out in a schadenfreude grin-or weep over your festering Yahoo stocks-check out the Web-connected WozCam. Chances are good that you’ll catch a glimpse of the Valley’s prodigal son Steve Wozniak. Yes, he’s baaack, sitting on furniture grabbed at cheaper-than-IKEA prices from failed dot-coms, banging on a G4 titanium laptop bulging with e-mailed résumés to his new company Wheels of Zeus (check the acronym). Twenty-five years ago Woz cofounded Apple Computer in a garage. Now, of all times, he’s back on the start-up trail, ready for a new revolution.

Woz’s return symbolizes what insiders already know: Silicon Valley is not only not dead, it’s already on the way back. In the aftermath of history’s biggest and giddiest boom-and-bust, the tech industry is entering the early stages of yet another cycle of innovation. “It’s a great time to start a new company,” says Heidi Roizen of Mobius Venture Capital. Jim Breyer, a partner at VC firm Accel, concurs. “This is exactly what was happening in the early 1990s [before the Internet exploded].”

In a sense, the impending rebound got its start as soon as the dot-com failures began releasing their employees. While many of the M.B.A. gold diggers high-tailed it back to Old Economy-ville, the people who matter in Silicon Valley-the geeks-weren’t going anywhere. Back on their own, many of them (with an occasional recharging in Tahoe or Maui) immediately began doing what they do best-making high-tech magic. “It’s like the city is burning, and the partisans are forced to take to the hills,” says Jay Tannenbaum, a former Shockwave executive. “After hiding in the bushes, they use those little tin ‘cricket-clicker’ doodads to find each other and regroup.” Click-click. Click.

They meet in Starbucks and in Web-based dot-bomb alumni groups. They hang out in each other’s houses. They give ad hoc demos of new projects. They present cool ideas at semiformal gatherings like Code Con, an ultrageeky show-and-tell held at San Francisco’s DNA Lounge last month. And sooner or later, they figure out how their brilliant new ideas might actually find their way into the marketplace.

Weirdly, one of the things that will help distinguish the next wave of start-ups-and make them more likely to last than the Webvans and eToys-is the difficulty they face in raising cash. “[During the boom] capitalization came too easy-now the filtering effect is back in,” says Sky Dayton, founder of Earthlink (good), eCompanies (whoops) and now a new venture called Boingo (high hopes). Putting it another way is Mike Edelhart, a former VC who’s COO of a digital-publishing start-up called Zinio: “For two years really crappy companies got funded. It’s impossible to get a crappy company funded now.”

Cognizant of the high bar, geeks with big ideas are now nurturing ideas on the Orson Welles principle of nothing served before its time. “You can stay under the radar longer,” says Bill Gross, an entrepreneur known as a serial offender during the boom days. “There are not the expectations that you build a company in three months.” That’s why Graham Spencer, who was chief technical officer of crashed-and-burned Excite, has been spending the last year quietly cooking up a new venture with colleague Joe Kraus. “This time we’re keeping it small,” Spencer, 30, says of his yet-unnamed company, which has something to do with Web services (if he told us more the radar would pick him up). He and Kraus work from their respective Palo Alto, Calif., homes, meeting a few times a week at their virtual office, California Pizza Kitchen.

Another example is Onedoto (pronounced like 1.0), a tiny group led by Valley interface king Steve Capps and a friend who worked with him on Apple’s Newton team. With seed money tight, they’re plowing ahead with schemes to make mobile tech easier to use, stocking up on patents in anticipation of the day the company will spring into action.

When that time comes, Onedoto will find that VCs are more than eager to listen. But don’t expect a repeat of the ’90s-the next revolution in Silicon Valley won’t feature idiotic Super Bowl commercials and billion-dollar ventures based on FedExing pet food. Post-bubble Silicon Valley tries hard to avoid the harebrained excesses that led to dot-bomb disasters. “We’re still doing deals, but now they’re well thought through,” says Accel’s Breyer. For instance, Accel recently took a month’s worth of technical and marketing analysis before funding a wireless play called Woodside Networks. “Two years ago we would have done it in a week,” says Breyer. (Woz was an exception; due to his rep, Mobius fast-tracked him after a PowerPoint pitch.)

The bubble years were like the last days of the Roman Empire-business practices were totally weird and dysfunctional,” says Greg Galanos of Mobius. Now he won’t consider companies without viable business plans, working prototypes and a sense of commitment instead of a delusional exit plan. These concepts may be too much for some pampered dot-comies to process. “There may be a lost generation of bubble entrepreneurs who won’t be able to adjust to realistic valuations and practices,” says Galanos.

In many ways, the new Silicon Valley is a lot like the old Silicon Valley before the madness hit. The smart VCs, in fact, are looking back and realizing that some of the most successful companies-like Microsoft and Cisco-began not in palmy times but in bust cycles. “I’ve seen this before,” says Steve Jurvetson, managing director of Draper Fisher Jurvetson. “So when we saw the bust coming, we immediately went to work. We funded Phosister [photoic integrated circuits], Nantero [nanotechnology], Luminos [health care] and Blue Falcon Networks [peer-to-peer networking].”

Post-bubble start-ups also enjoy benefits that weren’t available during the boom: lots of smart people willing to work for reasonable salaries (no fresh-off-the-campus prima donnas demanding stock options and unlimited Frappacinos). “We had a festival of greed here, and it was kind of sickening,” says Andy Hertzfeld, a veteran wizard who’s provided mind-blowing software for Apple and a host of start-ups. “Now it’s much more pleasant to walk down University Avenue [in Palo Alto].”

Meanwhile, the traditional pillars of the Valley are rejiggering their misbegotten dot-com-related initiatives or celebrating their resolve in not trying to hop on the bandwagon prematurely. Many are jumping at the first chance in years to pick off A-list talent at down-to-earth rates. When the hot but revenue-resistant start-up Eazel went belly up, Apple Computer not only snatched its veteran software guru Bud Tribble but grabbed a handful of its best engineers, too.

Like pings over the Net, random factoids and stats are trickling in that suggest the Valley is on the rise after scraping bottom. In the fourth quarter of 2001, VC investments went up for the first time in months. Temp agencies saw an upswing in employment calls. Post-September 11, the government announced a 15 percent increase in information-technology spending. There was even one successful IPO, PayPal; despite the company’s regulatory problems and a patent battle, it closed a few bucks over its offering price. But that’s only setting the stage for a more substantial comeback. In the next few months and years, if the momentum continues, we’ll see a tsunami of new ideas that will invigorate the region.

If you think about it, labeling the current Valley as a bust is almost as wacky as believing all the hype of the boom. While the valuation of high-tech firms went to hallucinatory levels, the benefits people enjoyed from the Internet itself were quite real. Recently a sweeping Department of Commerce study called “A Nation Online” painted a portrait of an amazingly connected coun-try. More than half of all Americans-143 million-were on the Net as of last September. Every month 2 million new users log on. A decade ago such numbers would have been inconceivable.

Obviously, the ubiquity of the Internet provides a platform to instantly propel new ideas into the marketplace-just as the previous boom in personal computers set the stage for the Net, and the microchip revolution sparked PCs. Historically, however, each transition was preceded by a downturn. “It’s all happened before,” says economist Doug Henton. “The habitat is so rich in smart people they simply readjust themselves to the next opportunity.”

Henton is coauthor of a white paper called “Next Silicon Valley: Riding the Waves of Innovation” that breaks down local history in “hype cycles” tied to tech breakthroughs. Now that the Internet hype cycle has swan-dived, it’s time for some new eruptions. In the short term, the hottest sector is wireless (particularly wi-fi, the unregulated frequency that allows for wireless Nets in homes, offices and coffee shops). Companies like Boingo, which attempts to broaden its use to consumers, are already rushing to market, and about 20 start-ups are competing to produce “wireless mesh networks” to make wi-fi work as seamlessly as the Internet. Then there’s Woz’s start-up; though product plans are under wraps, we do know it involves merging wireless with low-cost GPS to enable people to find things-and other people. (“It’s actually kind of obvious,” says Woz. Maybe to him.)

Another busy area is distributed file-sharing (essentially, making Napster-like peer-to-peer systems legal and profitable). No fewer than five new companies have gotten funding to set the standard in this space, and that doesn’t include countless not-for-profit schemes. And then there are Web services, subscription-based applications that utilize the Internet as a de facto operating system. A sign of their inevitability: 3,000 independent developers turned out last month to see Bill Gates introduce the tools to create software for Microsoft’s .NET platform.

Expect the truly big bangs, however, from exotic technologies that are just emerging from the research lab. Prescient propeller-heads are buzzing about bio-informatics, the use of computers to exploit massive new amounts of genetic information. “It’s a combination of pretty hard-core technology with the promise of some big payoffs in things like drugs and genomics,” says Tim O’Reilly, whose eponymous company recently sponsored a conference on the subject. The field is rich with opportunities for those who pioneer things like DNA measurement chips and genetic data mining. Since the demands of bioinformatics push the limits of current computation, there’s a potential ripple effect that could kick in as more powerful machines and innovative data-handling techniques find their way into the mainstream.

Other far-thinkers are focusing on nanotechnology, the science of creating atomic-scale devices to do our work for us. Some of the first start-ups include Nantero, which makes “carbon nanotube flash memory,” and Alien Technology, which uses “fluidic self-assembly” to make microscopic semiconductors. (These might sound like a mouthful, but remember how weird “random access memory” once struck you?)

It’s impossible to know just when these new technologies will kick in, changing our lives and enriching their founders. And maybe the biggest changes will come from some technology that right now is quietly cooking in someone’s lab-or garage. In any case, the greatest news of all in Silicon Valley is that the buzz no longer focuses on making billions, but in producing innovation. The traffic jams on 101 may not be as dense as they were in 1999, and the Nasdaq might continue to be anemic for some time-but the geeks have all their synapses firing, the best sign of copacetic times ahead. Buoyed by our still-increasing reliance on tech, and fortified by the lessons of history, a newly focused-and newly responsible-Silicon Valley is gearing up to wire us (and wireless us) more than ever. So welcome to Revenge of the Nerds, The Sequel. Click. Click-click.

With reporting by Brad Stone in Silicon Valley

© 2002 Newsweek, Inc.

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Revenge: Investors Want Idealab Liquidated https://ianbell.com/2002/01/21/revenge-investors-want-idealab-liquidated/ Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:08:10 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2002/01/21/revenge-investors-want-idealab-liquidated/ Idealab’s Blue Chip investors are lighting a fire under Bill Gross’ arse. They’re alleging he’s been using the slush to fund his lavish lifestyle and that he’s been securing personal loans against the company’s assets.

Even the CEO of an Internet Incubator should know that these are No-Nos.

Here’s hoping Bill gets his just desserts.

-Ian.

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http://latimes.com/business/la-000004752jan19.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dbu siness%2Dmanual

Investors Want Idealab Liquidated

Internet: Lawsuit against the Pasadena company’s founder claims Bill Gross mismanaged the incubator. The plaintiffs want the $500 million that remains. By KAREN KAPLAN TIMES STAFF WRITER

January 19 2002

A group of blue-chip investors who poured nearly $1 billion into the once-highflying Internet pioneer Idealab Inc. filed a lawsuit Friday demanding that founder Bill Gross liquidate the company and return the $500 million that’s left.

The suit alleges that Gross, Idealab’s chief executive, and his fiancee, company President Marcia Goodstein, badly mismanaged the company and have kept the enterprise alive simply to preserve their sumptuous lifestyle.

“In just two years, the defendants burned through more than $500 million,” the lawsuit says. “Idealab’s ‘incubator’ business, for all practical purposes, is nonexistent, and in fact, other ‘incubators’ are winding down, dissolving and refunding investor money.” Gross responded to the suit, saying it is “completely and totally baseless.”

“It’s just embarrassing that these people are so immature and crybaby that they want to take an investment that they made and carry it out this way,” he said after reading the allegations. “There’s a market downturn, but Idealab as a company is doing great.”

The filing of the lawsuit late Friday in Los Angeles Superior Court marks a grim milestone in the rise and fall of one of the most luminous stars of the so-called new economy.

With Pasadena-based Idealab, Gross invented the concept of an Internet “incubator” that turned inspirations into corporations in as little as three months. His strategy was widely copied as entrepreneurs and investors looked to cash in on the dot-com craze.

But the tech meltdown of the last two years has left 6-year-old Idealab a shadow of its former self.

Its most famous fledgling, online toy retailer EToys Inc., was once worth more than Toys R Us but shut down last year after burning through millions of dollars. Dozens of lesser-known firms also have been shuttered.

Idealab’s Web site lists 26 active companies, only one of which has been a big hit. Overture Services Inc., a pay-for-placement Internet search engine, has a market capitalization of $2.2 billion.

The investors suing Idealab–including Dell USA, T. Rowe Price Science & Technology fund and Moore Global Investments Ltd.–say there is little for the incubator to do and it could easily operate on a $1-million annual budget. Instead, Idealab maintains offices in Pasadena, Silicon Valley, Boston and London and recently doubled the salaries of Gross and Goodstein. The lawsuit has opened a can of worms, alleging a series of unseemly practices that occurred behind closed doors at the privately held company.

It accuses Gross and his associates of using Idealab’s resources to fund stock repurchases at inflated prices and collateralize personal loans, instead of looking out for the company’s investors. The plaintiffs said Idealab executives refused to hold shareholder meetings or provide access to the company’s financial records, in violation of California law.

The plaintiffs claim Gross has refused to liquidate Idealab because he is $40 million in debt and has a $50-million loan “he cannot possibly repay” without “accessing the assets of Idealab.” The suit also says six other executives and directors have borrowed a total of nearly $4.5 million from the company.

Gross said he borrowed $40 million from Bank of America so he could plow it back into the company, not spend it on personal items. “I invested in Idealab on the same terms as they did,” Gross said. “That money is in Idealab alongside theirs.”

The plaintiffs, including mutual funds and individuals, were the last major investors in Idealab. They put up $1 billion for a 10% share of the incubator, giving it a total valuation of $10 billion. The investment came in March 2000, just weeks before the dot-com bubble burst. Some of Idealab’s best-known start-ups began folding soon after.

Idealab and the plaintiffs have spent months trying to negotiate a deal that would allow the investors to recoup at least part of their massive cash influx. But the investors said Gross offered only 10 cents on the dollar. If Idealab were forced to divest its cash and liquidate assets, the investors could get 50 cents on the dollar, according to the suit.

The investors will probably seek an injunction to prevent Gross and other executives from frittering away Idealab’s remaining assets, said their attorney, Skip Miller, a partner with the Los Angeles firm Christensen, Miller.

They are seeking at least $500million in damages in addition to recovering the $500million remaining from their original investment.

Idealab President Goodstein said the suit came as a surprise. She said the company had little contact with its investors and there were no signs they were considering legal action.

“We’re scratching our heads,” she said.

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ListBot Closed by Microsoft https://ianbell.com/2001/06/22/listbot-closed-by-microsoft/ Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:38:41 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2001/06/22/listbot-closed-by-microsoft/ Scott Banister, who was when I met him a 25-year-old Prodigy at Idealab! who sat on the eVoice board, must be proud that he bailed out when his fucked company was bought by Microsoft during the heyday of dot communism. Anwyay, they shut it down.

Listbot was actually bought by LinkExchange which was then bought by MSFT… Banister created Listbot in his dorm room at UofI. I didn’t realize he had left Idealab! He and Bill Gross were a match made in heaven — both of them dinosaurs of dot com with no inkling how to create, manage, and operate successful companies in a real economy. At least Scott has an excuse — he’s 26 now and has had no hard lessons in real economics, and his bank account has taught him that fly-by-nite internet companies are in fact a path to success.

Eventually he’ll figure it out that in the long run it matters if those companies are still around to pay their employees once he’s extracted his gold. Or maybe, even now, it doesn’t?

-Ian.

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Chris Rock sues Idealab! and Z.com https://ianbell.com/2000/12/28/chris-rock-sues-idealab-and-zcom/ Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:20:51 +0000 https://ianbell.com/2000/12/28/chris-rock-sues-idealab-and-zcom/ This is suspiciously like what happened to someone I know very well who dealt with an Idealab! company. Perhaps Bill Gross conducts seminars on how to pull the ol’ contract switcheroo when hooking up talent.

-Ian.

http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=18835&pod_id=10

Chris Rock Heaves a Big Suit Back at Z.com — and Idealab, Too Ben Berkowitz 12/20/2000 20:20

See what happens when you start throwing Rocks in court?

On Wednesday, one day after Z.com sued Chris Rock, the actor and comedian struck back with his own lawsuit against the online entertainment provider, as well as its parent company, Idealab.

Rock claims in his Los Angeles Superior Court complaint that Z.com and Idealab approached him in April to provide content to the site and use his celebrity name to promote it and attract other talent. In exchange, Rock claims he was granted the right to purchase 1.75 million shares of common stock in Z.com, at or after its IPO, at $.10 a share and Z.com is obligated to buy back all of the shares at $3-per-share at any time during the third year of the agreement, according to the suit.

”When plaintiff asked about the vulnerability of the ‘.com’ market and the failures of several such companies, defendants’ representatives insisted that Z.com was part of defendant Idealab! and that Idealab! would unconditionally guarantee Z.com’s buy back obligation under the agreement,” the suit states. ”Idealab!’s involvement and affirmative backing is what attracted plaintiff to Z.com and provided the motivation for plaintiff’s eventual execution of the agreement.” Idealab also incubated in GoTo.com, eToys, CitySearch, NetZero and Tickets.com.

When Rock was ready to purchase the 1.75 million shares, however, Z.com and Idealab first delayed discussions on an agreement, and then allegedly had their attorneys change ”certain essential tax language previously negotiated in the agreement,” the suit claims. Rock demanded to have the language changed back, but the defendants prolonged discussions in order to keep Rock’s famous name associated with the Web site as long as possible because the company was facing financial problems, the suit maintains. Indeed, in October, Idealab withdrew its IPO and shuttered two of its companies. As for Z.com, it laid off nearly half of its 100 employees in October.

Rock’s lawsuit claims intentional misrepresentation, breach of contract and other allegations. He is seeking $5,075,000 plus interest. He is being represented by attorneys Stanton L. Stein, and Sarah B. Takasugi of Alschuler Grossman Stein & Kahan.

”It should be … noted that Chris Rock provided Z.Com with his complaint yesterday morning in an attempt to give Z.Com another opportunity to comply with the agreement,” said a statement issued by Rock’s publicists late Wednesday. ”Instead, Z.com filed what Chris Rock regards as a baseless lawsuit to deflect attention away from Z.com’s previously reported financial difficulties.”

Joe DiNunzio, Z.com’s CEO hadn’t seen the suit and couldn’t comment on it specifically. He said, however: ”We believe it is in both parties interest to settle this. We have been disappointed in the inability to conclude these negotiations.” Calls to both internal and external spokespeople for Idealab were not immediately returned.

Z.com’s lawsuit against Rock claims it is owed more than $1 million in repayment of fees given to Rock for the content which was never developed. The first lawsuit, which also names Rock’s company, Chris Rock Enterprises, as a defendant, claims there was a preliminary agreement made on April 6 requiring Z.com to pay Rock $1,075,000, to be repaid within 45 days if a final agreement was not reached by June 30, as, apparently, it wasn’t.

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