Comments on: On Stock Options https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/ Ian Bell's opinions are his own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Ian Bell Mon, 24 May 2010 23:01:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Duane storey https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1783 Mon, 24 May 2010 23:01:07 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1783 I could easily write an entire post about how much I hate options. Other than a few people I knew in ottawa in 2001, very few friends of mine have ever benefitted from stock options. While they may have made sense during the 2000-2002 market, the reality is the upsides aren’t just what they used to be.

The last company I worked for had given me 600,000 options over 5 years. Unfortunately they never made me a dime, despite the hours I worked or my contributions. Had I simply demanded what I was worth, I probably would have been $100k ahead over
that same time.

There are lots if scenarios where management can
benefit from a material event (such as a merger) but very few employees can. To exercise my options I had to obtain approval from our share officer who would have probably not let me exercise them except when in a blackout period (which was like 9 months out of
the year)

Stock options are basically worthless, and I’d never recommend and employee take
them in exchange for proper compensation. In a public company an employee could be
given preferred shares (which are real equity, options aren’t), which would
be better. But stock options can be nullified by a lot of poison pills, and shares in a private company are essentially pointless if you don’t have any abililty to sell them.

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By: Brendon J. Wilson https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1778 Wed, 05 May 2010 04:09:55 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1778 One other funny local story: When I returned from Ireland, I interviewed with a large number of local companies. The HR person from one of the companies, ActiveState, tried to justify the overly low salary to me by explaining that I’d have 40K stock options.

There was just one problem: she couldn’t tell me the size of the option pool, or the number of outstanding shares in the company! So, essentially, I was supposed to take their word that it was an equitable amount, without any context. Of course, I turned down the job.

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By: D Pye https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:30:32 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1653 Stock options have a dirty history in Vancouver. It’s a junior finance market, and one that’s always been dominated by penny mining stocks and the hysterical financiers who can huckster such paper to the moon and back in the time it takes you to open and close your wallet.
Back when the Ventures exchange was still the VSE, the cheap fast and dirty way for a tech company to become publicly listed was to engineer a reverse-takeover of a dormant, publicly listed mining company. They’d quickly issue several classes of shares, reserving a “special” class for employees and anybody else gullible enough to accept them. The stocks were worthless, and if by accident they actually turned out to hold some value, they could easily be diluted. Many of these companies would gladly pay for any product, service or employee with 50% of the sticker price in stocks or options. I personally knew several sad cases who worked for 100% shares – sleeping in the office and showering at the gym – all in the hope of getting more paper under their belt. In the end, all they were left with was a bad taste in their mouth.
Privately held corporations, being even less transparent than their public brethren, have seen even worse excesses. As skeptical as I’ve been, I’ve taken up several companies offers of stock options, and seen little but trouble for the effort. I’ve seen first-round employees diluted to the point of financial incontinence, and buy-out technicians who’d engineer a stacking of the board so that hostile motions could be carried out. It’s how it’s always been done here – Vancouver didn’t pick up the name “Terminal City” without a sense of irony.
Now, occasionally things do work out, and not all juniors are polluted by hucksters. The reality is, but for a few spectacular exceptions (onvia, creo), most tech firms in Vancouver tend to opt for an early stage buyout, where there’s simply not much sloshing around for anybody but early employees to even get their hands wet.
I’m not suggesting that stock options aren’t important – I bargain hard for options, and nothing makes me happier than to see the company principals feel a smidgen of pain. It’s the ones who smile and say “fine, whatever you need” that you really have to watch out for.

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By: Ian Bell https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1652 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:14:54 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1652 In reply to Nick Bauman.

I’ve lost the lottery much more often than I’ve won it, however 100% of the options I’ve been granted in Silicon Valley have increased in value (still waiting on an exit for one of them), and 0% of the options I’ve been granted in Vancouver have increased in value or seen successful outcomes.

So there’s a definite chicken-egg scenario at play here as others have pointed out. Vancouver companies do tend to aim low and their VCs like to fund them aenemically forcing down-rounds and low valuations, rendering options granted at early stages essentially worthless.

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By: Dan Walter, Performensation https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1651 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:35:35 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1651 Ian,
Very interesting article. I posted a summary of it, and link on the Equity Compensation Experts, networking groupsite.

I have specialized in the area of equity compensation for more than 15 years. I also remember the Cisco and Google fortunes and have seen the fortunes created by PayPal and others. These, however, are the extraordinary stories. They do not, and have not,represented the facts of “normal” equity compensation packages. Most people do not get rich, even when their companies are incredibly successful.

Options were designed to fill a hole in the amount of pay a company could afford directly. As they became popular and pre-IPO money poured into companies (mostly in the late 1990’s), salaries equalized and then larger public companies started trying to compete with options. This distorted the market and has left everyone with a feeling that it was the “norm”, when in fact it was a 3-5 year blip in history.

The key is providing “equitable” equity compensation. This is a difficult task and requires significant planning and management. I think we will continue to see a growth in vesting based-on hitting performance criteria, rather than just time-oriented hurdles. This has the possibility of opening up equity compensation to more individuals, but limiting the payouts to a selected few.

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By: Daniel Nerenberg https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1649 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:25:06 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1649 I would agree that in general Canadians employees and Canadian employers have a generally apathetic view of stock options. I have worked for several small start-up type companies and found almost no interest when discussing stock options. Another dimension of this issue might also be the way government’s taxes stock option earnings with fairly high capital gains tax. I agree though that if we started embracing these philosophies we would have a much better chance of creating the start-up ecosystem Canada needs to go forward today.

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By: Peter https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1648 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:31:48 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1648 I enjoyed the article Ian, thanks!

I would like to add to Ben’s inquiry regarding amount and vesting period a question about “sweat equity.”

Are there rules of thumb for the trade of salary for options?

For example, although a startup may have already received private funding at $xyz per share, it shouldn’t reasonably be expected that employees sacrifice salary at the same rate per share… Or should it?

In short, when negotiating for equity, knowing the price per share of private investment, how can this knowledge inform how to negotiate the balance of options vs salary.

Thanks,
Peter

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By: Allen Pike https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1647 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 05:35:01 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1647 I think another facet of this issue is that in Vancouver, founders’ sights aren’t as set as high as they are in Silicon Valley. The culture and lifestyle here begets “lifestyle companies” where the founders are more aiming at a sustainable company with 20 employees rather than a $100 million sale or an IPO.

Given that, stock options aren’t as valuable to potential employees. What is 2.5% of a company that does moderately well but never sells worth?

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By: Nick Bauman https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1646 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:37:32 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1646 I think you suffer from a bit of sampling bias, Ian. You’ve already won the lottery. So naturally you’re going to advocate people playing lottery. Especially now that you’re in the lottery business, to complete the analogy. I haven’t. In my experience — getting screwed out of options not once but twice — I find them a positive gesture in an offer and at least a revealing cultural signifier of those who offer them. I don’t look down on them: they mean something. Just less than you do.

In fact you make us wage slaves seem like ungrateful slobs. Since I don’t hold out much hope of cashing in on any lotteries, you might consider that perhaps the journey is more important than the destination to me. Will I feel good about making you rich? I mean are you someone that deserves my devotion? In the time that we have, we want to be loved, we want to love and we want to matter. Is that so hard for you to get? Because in the end the destination is the same for all of us, bud.

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By: DShan https://ianbell.com/2010/03/05/on-stock-options/comment-page-1/#comment-1644 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:06:04 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=5310#comment-1644 Great stuff Ian. The long term value to employer and employee via stock options just can’t be argued. It should be priority number one for anyone joining a young-ish tech company, because the strategy underlying that stage of a tech endeavor is to amplify value quickly. Settling for a paycheck is naive to the fundamentals you’re subscribing to. The contractor mentality is simply shortchanging work you’d do for a company like that…if you’re going to sell your time you should sell it to older established companies, not startups.

I don’t blame you for holding onto your equity if it’s not being demanded by hires. In the US you’d be hard pressed to find anyone doesn’t want a stake in the company’s future.

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