Comments on: Hey Steve, turn the Apple TV OFF will you? https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/ Ian Bell's opinions are his own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Ian Bell Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:49:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.1 By: Jim https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1576 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:49:41 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1576 I am shocked considering one of Apple’s major marketing push is how it is going green.

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By: John https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1471 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:20:52 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1471 OK, this won’t help you switch it off, but…
with mine, I found the best thing was to rig up a few PC fans with a 12v converter and have this running 24/7 aimed at the back of the ATV unit. These fans are good quality and run silently. They keep the ATV cool enough that it doesn’t need to use its own, internal fan.
Probably uses about the same amount of power though 🙁

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By: OS11 https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1298 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:10:32 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1298 In reply to Alan Smith.

nah, that’s no solution since it restarts the entire AppleTV which is no fun if you want to use it like a TV. There is a name for the component it is missing. RVCH or some such. The upcoming AppleTV will surely have it, or it could entirely be a Steve thing since he knows it’s going to be a torrent like server in the next rev, so always needs to be on. Hum.

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By: OS11 https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1297 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:06:13 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1297 In reply to Steve W.

@ steve w

but the AppleTV simply never powers down, there is NO sleep mode like a Mac, Printers, Monitors, Hard Drives, etc. Plus there is NO power switch, you have to pull the plug. That’s what this article is discussing.

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By: OS11 https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1296 Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:01:22 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1296 In reply to bud.

Spoken like a true person that has never used an AppleTV. It’s a streaming video, audio, photo, podcast, etc… device… so its capacity is unlimited since the ATV uses the internet as one big hard drive. I’ve used my ATV hard for almost 3 years and the 40GB drive only has about 6GB used. So you fundamentally don’t understand how it operates.

The interface runs circles around a Mac mini running FrontRow so except for yes, it not having a sleep mode, it’s Apple’s best value in their entire product line.

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By: Ian https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1293 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 21:02:26 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1293 In reply to Alan Smith.

I think the article states fairly plainly why that isn’t a good idea. Generally speaking the Apple TV has to do a complete rebuild after you interrupt its power source.

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By: Alan Smith https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1292 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:54:59 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1292 Matt- did you read the article? I did and I am simply reiterating what the author has said; but emphasizing the point: don’t make it a big deal, just turn off the power strip or unplug the thing.

Oh Matt, you didn’t understand: DON”T MAKE IT A BIG DEAL, JUST TURN OFF THE POWER STRIP OR UNPLUG THE TING.h

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By: bud https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1291 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:17:44 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1291 The biggest misperception about AppleTV has always been very simple… people want it to be a Mac, when it is simply an iPod.

It is an iPod for streaming video, and not much else. The terribly small capacity reflects its origins as a growth from the iPod model of function, and remember (and any update to the device should have this) It was probably considered a possible docking station for a portable iPod as well (hidden under the hood of the first models, until it was realized, iTunes store bloat would overwhelm it.

Now, would you say, other than capacity, that the typical iPod Touch or iPhone now offers -more- than the AppleTV, which has not shifted much? Probably. It is a place holder until the HDTV transition gets its act in gear, regarding tuning standards. Would a MacMini work better, doubling, with some effort, as a Tivo like DVR/DVD with blueray perhaps in the future? Yes, but it wouldn’t meet the price point. The idea is, you have a cheap box you can attach to your TV(s), and not worry about much else, as long as viewing your media is involved. Media you conveniently got from the iTunes Store, so Hollywood et al would not get up tight. AppleTV is a probe, a toe into the water, that will safely go ignored while one sizes up the pool.

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By: Ian https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1289 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:55:43 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1289 In reply to Steve W.

Steve, why buy clues when I can get them for free? Here‘s info on the range of Linux suspend options, as an example:

ACPI sleep states enable you to send the system in a low-power consuming sleep mode. There are two sleep modes dealt with in this howto:

* ACPI S3, sleep mode 3, also referred to as suspend-to-ram. This is a state of very low power consumption, where most of the hardware is switched off, and only a little energy is used to keep the memory alive during sleep.
* ACPI S4, also referred to as suspend-to-disk. This is a state where no power is consumed. An image of the memory is written to disk, then the hardware is switched off. Booting the system will read the image back and restore all running programs.

My MacBook Pro can sleep, my Mac Pro can sleep. My Apple TV should too.

And BTW, Wake-on-LAN is a feature that every computer has, regardless of OS or type of fruit used as logo.

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By: Steve W https://ianbell.com/2009/10/07/hey-steve-turn-the-apple-tv-off-will-you/comment-page-1/#comment-1288 Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:28:21 +0000 https://ianbell.com/?p=4982#comment-1288 Buy a clue! Your Mac is never really off either. That’s why they can have the “on/off” switch on the keyboard, and why Mac’s can be “powered on” remotely via ADB (Apple Desktop Bus), ethernet or USB. This has been the case since the mid 1980s when Apple specifically recommended NOT turning off the power strip that fed your Mac. This was contrary to the IBM PC (and it’s clones). Their on/off switches were built into the power supply, on the AC side of the converter.

Apple Printers could be “turned on and off” by the Mac. Ditto Apple Displays.

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